Showing posts with label offline programming. Show all posts
Showing posts with label offline programming. Show all posts

11.05.2018

How to: DAS does offline coding & programming

Mercedes offline programming/coding tips and guides:

Offline coding:
SCN or CVN coding was added to the cars back in 2003 if not earlier . The idea of OFFLINE coding was to be able to make SCN codings when you don’t have an internet connection at your workshop to be able to perform this online. In both cases an SCN or CVN coding was required.
Let’s not confuse OFFLINE coding with simple CODINGS !
Codings can be done with regular DAS or Developer DAS more deeply. Coding does not imply that you have to replace your unit software completely. If you have to make an Offline coding this implies to flash your unit with an updated software version or at least the same version which you have already (not sure if you will be able to downgrade your software) and then SCN code that one to be activated in your car. I’m not aware of any car which can be OFFLINE coded without the request for an SCN code.
The only good point here is the time needed to do this. Yes , you can make OFFLINE coding with your system and then go back to the dealer and ask them to make an SCN coding for you…however are u sure they will not charge you the same amount as if it was done in their workshops ?

The internal VIN of this car (e.g.w211): is WDB2110261AXXXXXX

The first letter of the external VIN after “WDB” gives the body style, like
– U for MB means 211
– F means Sedan
– next two digits are the model within the body type, seems to be a direct copy from the internal VIN
– next digit is about the SRS system, I’ve found explanations up to the letter F, so this car must have more SRS equipment than known when my reference was drafted
– position 9 is a check digit and the tenth digit comes from the model year.
It is much easier to find this if you enter the external VIN to EPC and let it decode the internal VIN for you. Then pick up digits 4-9.


Ps. 17-digit code & 6 digits of numbers
vin-to-epc-digit-number-1

vin-to-epc-digit-number-2

vin-to-epc-digit-number-3

Office programming:

If you want to program ecu ‘offline’, there are several options:
1. In DAS, you can program ecu’s offline. (In xentry, you have to buy xentry calculator.)
2. Vediamo is the way to go to program ecu offline and is used by daimler factory
3. If you want only for 204.041 as above, you can try to use 204 in DAS. and there is free offline programming
between those three options, vediamo is the best and can be used for 99% vehicle’s model

Noe that: For those with Star diagnosis for 100usd around. DAS is your way to go.

DAS (older models before 2011, but still most cars communicate through this program)
Xentry (new model cars 2011-2016)
If you set it up correctly, you can program offline in DAS only. Then if we need to go online with DAS we switch the modified flash folder to the original.
Xentry there is no offline programming, only online. Obviously, you need to have login and pass to go online.
Btw, offline programing is an ancient way of the service,..nowadays its better to use online services,…its safety,..and quickly

The last, how to enable DAS for offline programming:
Option 1: (try on your own risk)
It’s very simple to enable “Offline” programming in newest DAS version

copy this file to
F:\Programme\DAS\trees\pkw\flashen\ini
(click yes, to replace existing).
And Be Happy !!!

if you not have this function for any concrete car – check first six VIN digits for this car, and add to this file in model section.
for sample – to enable option for WDD221054 – add text string to file :
221.054=YES

Option 2: (try on your own risk)
Open F:\Programme\DAS\trees\pkw\flashen\ini on the notepad and add ->
First of all
———-A451———-
451.331=YES
451.332=YES
etc
etc
etc

IMPORTANT!!!!!!!
The options above are diy solutions from DAS users.
TRY ON YOUR OWN RISK.
NO ONE HOLDS RESPONSIBILITIES FOR YOU.
If solutions above remain useless or you want a solution WITH SECURITY, please try option 3, the idiot solution.

Option 3: (use with relief and security)
Spend a little bit money on an enabled DAS for offline programming.
mb-sd-c4-offline-programming-1

mb-sd-c4-offline-programming-2

mb-sd-c4-offline-programming-3

mb-sd-c4-offline-programming-4

Though the DAS 2012.11 version is kind of old, this is the one we highly recommend. It has been tested for thousands of times on vehicles, verified to work definitely.

And it also can be come with the full package V2012.11 MB SD Connect C4 with DELL D630 laptop,very convenient for customer who do not have DELL D630 laptop or do not know how to install software correctly.

This will save a lot of time for urgent needs. That is, users can directly use this set for offline programming when they receive the package (including setup offline mode in old DAS software) and open the function. But they need set up WIFI and Lan cable connection by themselves if wanna do online programming.


In short,
For offline programming,
DAS 2012.11 is the best solution for old cars before 2010.

For online programming,
You can use the latest version 07.2018 or 09.2018 Xentry system for the old and new cars

11.08.2016

2015.12V SD Connect C4 offline programming aborted solution

One of the user feedback that he had problem to carry out offline programming by using MB Star diagnosis 2015.12V DAS. Here is the error analysis.

Problem:
He has ordered the Setting Up Offline Mode In Old DAS service to open offline programming function. He uses SD Connect C4 2015.12V DAS software.

After open the authorization, he then access to control module programming, but the DAS display error message “The procedure was aborted by the user
das-the-procedure-was-aborted
Reason:
Offline programming requires to work with old DAS pre-2014.7. Newer DAS will not perform offline programming.
Sorry, you have wasted your money.  Please DO contact the technician before you order online/offline programming service.

10.18.2016

Tips on set up SD Connect DAS 2012.11 Offline programming

Here are the main setup guide of SD connect c4 DAS 2012.11 on offline programming for whose who are not familiar this feature.

Select Control unit adaptions in DAS 2012.11
control-unit-adaptation
The select Control module programming (Do not select Read coding option i.e in the picture below)
control-module
Then Offline (diagnostic unit not network)
offline-programming

Only if DAS can access here, it can be verified the car and system can be programmed offline.

If the model or system cannot be supported by the offline function, the program maybe pop up message like “coding is been read please wait”. If so, the model or system should be scn coded online, please go for latest DAS v2016.09.

Tips for SAM offline programming:
1 CANNOT update SAM.
The SAM in DAS system maybe the newest so that can not perform offline programming.
2 CANNOT change codes
Only when use the engineering software (Vediamo), users can change codes of SAM and gateway.

10.15.2016

3 ways to enable DAS offline programming

Here are some customers’ diy solutions and professional suggestions of enabling/setting up DAS offline programming.

Solution 1 – add a file
If you need a simple way for DAS offline programming.
Free download Inbetrieb.ini:
Just copy the attached file to:
F:\Programme\DAS\trees\pkw\flashen\ini


Solution 2 – setup DAS files
Open F:\Programme\DAS\trees\pkw\flashen\ini on the notepad and add ->
First of all
———-A451———-
451.331=YES
451.332=YES
etc
etc
etc

NOTE:
solution 1&2 are diy solutions from DAS users. TRY AT YOUR OWN RISK.
If solutions above remain useless, please try solution 3, the idiot solution.


Solution 3 – enabled DAS offline programming
Spend a little bit money on an enabled DAS for offline programming.
das-offline-programming-1

das-offline-programming-2

das-offline-programming-3

das-offline-programming-4

Though the DAS 2012.11 version is kind of old, this is the one we highly recommend. Mbstartool.com tested this for thousands of times on vehicles, verified to work definitely.

And it also comes with the full package V2012.11 MB SD Connect C4 with DELL D630 laptop, very convenient for customer who do not have DELL D630 laptop or do not know how to install software correctly.

This will save a lot of time for urgent needs. That is, users can directly use this set for offline programming when they receive the package (including setup offline mode in old DAS software) and open the function. But they need set up WIFI and Lan cable connection by themselves if wanna do online programming.

Note:
For offline programming,
For Mercedes-Benz before 2012, DAS 2012.11 is a good choice but not for the newer.
For new cars (post 2012), you can choose DAS 2015.05 software.

For online programming,
You can use the latest version v2106.09 DAS system for the old and new cars.