Showing posts with label Benz eCOM DoIP. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Benz eCOM DoIP. Show all posts

8.14.2019

OEM Xentry VCI C6 (genuine vci look) How it works?

Let’s start with some questions on the Xentry VCI C6 OEM clone (looks like the genuine XENTRY Diagnosis Kit 3.)

Is it the clone of genuine Bosch xentry VCI?
Does it require install VXDIAG drivers?
Can it be used wirelessly?
Do you use ordinary Xentry openshell or Xentry openshell pass-through?

Answer:1. They have not cloned the new Xentry VCI
2. You can use ordinary XDOS without VXdiag Driver. Only config ecom and ready.
3. With keygen. No wireless or wifi, usb and lan only.
The one looks like original, but inside is different. It works like Ecom.
Here some Pictures of Xentry VCI C6 Clone.
The inside boards:
xentry-vci-c6-pcb-1

xentry-vci-c6-pcb-2

xentry-vci-c6-pcb-3
Software contains xentry (not DAS), vediamo, dts, epc/wis.
Test on A class W177 and a Brabus, fast USB connection and able to access all possible modules.
xentry-vci-c6-pcb-4

xentry-vci-c6-pcb-6

xentry-vci-c6-pcb-6

xentry-vci-c6-pcb-7
Downside:
The Benz C6 VCI should work with only the software they produce which can be expensive when updating.

Suggestion:
In conclusion we think the SD Connect C4 represents better value for money for the novice user who should wait until they can use Xentry software with confidence before moving to more advanced Vehicle Communication Interface, The C6 VCI seen in the photo is what a good high quality clone should look like and not the VCM2 encased version which is of lower quality
We only stock the highest quality VCI call us for free consultation.

8.07.2019

Original MB SD connect C4 alternative?

MB Star diagnostic SD Connect C4 (Item No. SP100-D) is a decent Mercedes diagnostic and programming tool. But now, it’s gonna stop production.
Today, we’ll talk about possible alternatives in the market:

  • Benz VCI C6
  • Benz C6 OEM
  • Xentry Connect DoIP C5 (not SD C5 clone)
  • Benz eCOM
  • Alllscanner VXDIAG VCX Plus for Benz
  • SD connect C4 PLUS DoIP
different-benz-scanners
Here’s well discuss all the Mercedes diagnosis tools

  1. Benz VCI C6: with dongle, same look as the genuine C6
  2. Benz C6 OEM
  3. Xentry Connect DoIP C5: not the C5 clone of C4. Software free update by file. DoIP enabled.
  4. Benz eCOM: good at diagnosis and programming
  5. Alllscanner VXDIAG Benz: features DoIP compatibility
  6. SD connect C4 PLUS: works with original Xentry XDOS, DoIP enabled

CAN & CANNOT:

CAN do:
All supports WiFi connection.
All MB tools here can work for Mercedes diagnosis, coding and programming.
All are confirmed to work with Xentry, EPC, WIS, SD media, Star Finder, PL73
All can work on new Mercedes

CANNOT do:
Benz VCI C6, Benz C6 OEM, Benz eCOM cannot work with Vediamo and DTS
Benz VCI C6, Benz C6 OEM, Benz ECOM cannot work on old Mercedes.

Detail table comparison
NameBenz VCI C6Benz C6 OEMxentry connect c5 doipBenz ECOMAlllscanner VXDIAG  Benz C6SD connect C4 Plus DoIP

 SP332-BSP332SP311SP335VX11-BSP100-E
Price569 usd
with sw in 500G HDD
549 usd
without sw
1049 usd1179 usd
with sw in 256G SSD
369 usd
without sw
429 usd
without sw
Featurewith dongle, same look as the genuine C6DoIP enabled


good at diagnosis an programming

DoIP enabledworks with original Xentry XDOS, DoIP enabled
Software compatibilityFactory HDD/SSD onlyFactory HDD/SSD onlyFactory HDD/SSD onlyFactory HDD/SSD onlyFactory HDD/SSD onlyFactory HDD/SSD,
original software
UpdateBy HDD/SSDBy HDD/SSDFree update by fileBy HDD/SSDBy HDD/SSDBy HDD/SSD
DiagnosisYesYesYesYesYesYes
SCN codingYesYesYesYesYesYes
ProgrammingYesYesYesYesYesYes
Xentry/DASYesYesYesYesYesYes
EPCYesYesYesYesYesYes
WISYesYesYesYesYesYes
SDmediaYesYesYesYesYesYes
Star FinderYesYesYesYesYesYes
PL73YesYesYesYesYesYes
DTS MonacoNONONONOYesYes
VediamoNONOYesNOYesYes
New MercedesYesYesYes
DoIP enabled!
Yes
DoIP enabled!
Yes
DoIP enabled!
Yes
DoIP enabled!
Old MercedesNONONONOYesYes

The best alternative is…
SDconnect C4 PLUS, released in the year 2019
mb-sd-c4-doip-plus
The old SDconnect C4 and new C4 PLUS share the same look.
But the C4 PLUS with PCB updated, can communicate with vehicles with DOIP like the newest hybrid W222, W205.
Look here:
mb-sd-c4-doip-pcb
This is the new components added on C4 PLUS on PCB.

2019 SD connect C4+ PCB:
mb-sd-c4-sp100-e-pcb-1

mb-sd-c4-sp100-e-pcb-2

mb-sd-c4-sp100-e-pcb-3

mb-sd-c4-sp100-e-pcb-4
source:
2018 SD connect C4 PCB:
mb-sd-c4-sp100-d-pcb-1

mb-sd-c4-sp100-d-pcb-2

mb-sd-c4-sp100-d-pcb-3

mb-sd-c4-sp100-d-pcb-4

mb-sd-c4-sp100-d-pcb-5
source:


2019 doip mb sd C4 PLUS features:

It’s 1:1 clone of the original
Able to work for DoIP
Compatible with original Benz dealer software
It’s the only C4 that supports ethernet communication (DoIP)
Have tested no issues on new mercedes with doip
You don’t have to install batteries for firmware update
No need worry about firmware damage in the update process
The wireless connection is stable
MB SD Connect C4 is connected automatically to WLAN for diagnostic tests
Also, remote help is available
The C4 machine has good quality
It’s waterproof, shockproof and tamper proof

5.08.2019

Benz eCOM DoIP and SD connect C4 Comparison

Look here: What’s the difference between Benz eCOM DoIP diagnostic tool and MB Star diagnostic SD connect c4 multiplexer?
Mercedes diagnostic tooleCOM DoIPSD connect C4
Image 
benz-ecom-doip
 
mb-sd-c4
Price899469
Software compatibility
XentryYes, Xentry 03.2019Yes, Xentry 05.2019
DASNoYes, DAS 05.2019
VediamoYesYes
DTS MonanoYesYes
EPCYesYes, EPC 11.2018
WISYesYes, WIS 11.2018
SDmediaYesYes
HHT-WINNoYes
Star FinderYesYes, Star Finder 2008 & 2016
Price List (PL)NoYes, PL73
Functionality
DiagnosisYesYes
Online programmingYesYes
Offline programmingNoYes
Online SCN codingYesYes
You should pay for SCN coding
Protocol compatibility
CAN1 (high speed)YesYes, CANBUS
CAN2 (high/low speed)YesYes, CANBUS
K-LineYesYes
USDYes
LINYesNo
Ethernet DoIPYesNo
KL15YesNo
Vehicle coverageNewest vehicles Only (after 2009 – w204 and up) Serial 200xxx
Special for DoIP programming on the latest E and S series.
Perfect for Mercedes COMAND NTG5, NTG5s1, NTG5s2, NTG5.5 flashing/programming
Car, Bus, Truck, Sprint, Smart 1989-2019



In summary,

New car: eCom DoIP
eCom – laboratory\development tool. Most cheap and light. Can’t be used with DAS\HHT vehicles. Need luck with kline communication. Need to be specially setup on any diag sw installation.
Normal: Clone SDConnect C4SDConnect – workshop\robust tool. Most universal in use. The only limitation is kline communication in Vediamo from ver5* Easy to setup. In most cases work as is.


Good to know:

Actia eCOM DoIP Box Multiplexer Kit supports DoIP for the latest E and S series, and it’s perfect for Mercedes COMAND NTG5, NTG5s1, NTG5s2, NTG5.5
ECOM is the diagnostic and swipe communication interface used by daimler-benz’s production and r&d department. It supports the after sales diagnostic software Xentry, Vediamo, and the Monaco DTS, the exclusive development software, with higher access rights than SDconnect (C4).
ECom supports the CAN/DoIP network, which CAN be used for the diagnosis and brushing of new car audio and video entertainment systems. Vediamo for Mercedes engineers is an engineering software used by Mercedes engineers to develop diagnostic software, that is, Xentry and DAS now in use is developed based on Vediamo and delivered to general after-sales dealers. For this reason, using the Mercedes super engineering version is open to all diagnosis /coding/retrofit/flashing programming features. It is possible to add or reduce SA codes freely without going through VEDOC(the process of the original factory applying for modifying the equipment code), so as to achieve the purpose of modifying the vehicle equipment, such as adding SA500 electric rearview mirror.
Xentry and DAS Developer mode, commonly known as: exploit data engineering version after 2010, has added many restrictions on functions. Therefore, people may encounter that the vehicle version is too new to enter the control unit, or they cannot make any special modifications after entering the control unit. For example, the w204/212 2012 meter may need to be configured in the regional language, or turn on other convenience functions.
The database of diagnosis /coding/retrofit/flashing for the Mercedes engineer version USES the Xentry database, so the Mercedes engineer version is dependent on the Xentry version. As long as the database is new, the Mercedes engineer version can use the V4.00 version on the new model, and compact3 & SDconnect does not support the ODX document. The latest V5.00 supports ODX files with eCom. It is recommended to use eCom with DoIP function, which is faster and more stable.